The BIG12 would be stupid to go. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. 7:34 PM · Jul. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. ”Log in. “Also not a damn one of those that laughed at me when I said months ago ACC was going to adopt unequal revenue sharing came back and apologized. OMG I was wrong. 3. Retweets. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. 3 — is made for TV. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. Huge mistake. 4. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. @m_iguel_ca. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. ”That scenario was floated by Fox. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. Replying to @MHver3. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. “@godawgs4 Not really. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. Quote Tweets. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. See new Tweets“@TreJacksonStan @kg4cy I guess that’s subjective. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. But simply never happens. Do you prefer to move to the B10 for the money that you really don’t need with Phil Knight’s checkbook-where you will play 2nd fiddle to many? Or do you prefer becoming the top dog in the B12 conference?”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Pitt actually did improve after the move. I’m packing it up. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. MHver3 @MHver3. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. 5% each. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. I’ve shared that here last summer. ”Log in. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. @MHver3 If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. GIF. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. Ed. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 239. It was $24. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. 2. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. Found. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. Likes. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. ”Log in. @cwishn. 19. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. ”Log in. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. Likes. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. Also a high ranking member of. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. It was $24. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. ·. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. At least for the next 6-8 years. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. ”“Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. 1 — and for No. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. Replying to. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. @xtmountain. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. Factions have formed. 5m. ” MHver3 @MHver3. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. And they all already know the current numbers. Houston and BYU applications are in. There. MHver3 @MHver3. We don’t have the endowment they have. Louis Oliverio. We currently get about $4m for that same content. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. And GK. Quote Tweets. Retweets. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. Log in. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. Look for a thread soon. 31 May 2023 12:38:21. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. Replying to. Likes. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. They know. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. Their additions brought stability. The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. Would need to probably add 6. 26. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. 2. ”See new Tweets. Taking the four will crush the P12. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. And they all already know the current numbers. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. @MHver3. 7. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. FSU is the most attractive maybe. Corey Wishnia. twitter. 2. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. That will never happen because these additions are based on valuation metrics. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). ”“Since everyone is regurgitating Mandel’s garbage today allow me one last time to explain why the ratings don’t matter here and are in fact flawed. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. 11. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. As did VT. @bobtrollsby. Sign upSee new Tweets. AZ has and AZSU problem. This is the “Tier1” package. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Amazon gets more first choice. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. In person. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. If Jimbo gets fired from TAMU (unlikely but possible) he would be the front runner. ”GK about to get shipped to China. All 3 tiers. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. “@AveCope Big12 believes it will be able to offer $36-40m with OR and WA plus control of Tier3 tv rights. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 5m. @xtmountain. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. Replying to @MHver3. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. @MHver3. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. I don’t normally delete anything. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. Taking a small break from sharing. Might even see a Huskie or two. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). @MHver3. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. 1 — and for No. and @Mountaineer_Ste. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. 2. Huskies have come back to the table. Gonzaga is in for basketball. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. One that seems to have a lot of steam is that Pac12 and Big12 leadership will be meeting Tuesday to discuss a full-on merger. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. But not the question asked. @MHver3. MHver3 @MHver3. Even an Oregon and a Washington together don’t increase the pie enough to bring up the per school payout. Sign upSee new Tweets. The Big 10 should just bring in all the schools in the Pac 10 as a Western division. @MHver3. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Retweets. help. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. Replying to. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. 2. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. 2. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. Amazon gets more first choice. March 7th. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. 1. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. Likes. Likes. @MHver3. 2. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. Quote. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. ”Gonna have envoys from the Rockies and the desert here at the B12 meetings in West-by-God Virginia. $320m per year for 12 years. 7h. @CFBKnights. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. ”MHver3 @MHver3. 7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 MHver3. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. ”Log in. MHver3 @MHver3. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. 4. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. Who stands to benefit the most?“@USFBullTampaBuc They should’ve built these a decade ago. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. Conversation“Slow day for info and the weekend will most likely be the same, so here’s a quote I thought I’d share for discussion: "Yeah, I know where the money is " Yormark when asked about tv money during an interview with 365 Sports. Sign up“Called my source. Bradley Berry M. Replying to . That’s all I’ve got. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. Boise. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. ”“Sorry I’ve been away so long. Staples: The realignment battle for No. That’s it. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. 2. and @TheAPBerry. That was a guarantee. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Retweets. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. Meanwhile ND maneuvered their way to a sweetheart deal with ACC and was able to leave the faltering BIgEast. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. Valuation of per school is higher if omitting 2 of the 6 because the projected media dollars are very similar with or without those 2. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. This will be my last tweet for a bit. " / Twitter.